I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ENUFF31 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:29 am

RASS, I see you have a new platform (GREEN)to divert from answering the question posed to you. Dive, Ducky, and Deflect. I guess that is how you have to do it when you refuse to understand and push your own worthless agenda. This site is not conducive to your lack of good common sense and certainly not your cause. You are pro-Illegal alien and we are anti illegal alien. We have not come on here to be enlarged with alien rhetoric but find the solution to population stabilization with enforcement, fence and immediate deportation. We are informed, have great knowledge, and will not be denied.

One is not a civil answer to civil question. I too am waiting for anwers to four months of questions to you on specific topics.
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ras6057 on Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:35 am

ENUFF31 wrote:Yes rass, show us your knowledge and understanding of California’s’ clear and present dangers. Show us your concern and commitment to California and its survivability in its present state of emergency. Do not think of the rest of the world just think what is going on in CA. What are its needs? What are the needs of American Citizens within? I guess I should say for your benefit its illegal aliens and Mexicans. In your case pretend no Americans live there or their inventions, streets, schools, hospitals, military, money, insurance, and manufacturing. Just try to imagine that, you cannot, but try.

Now imagine those illiterates (uneducated) coming over by the hundreds of thousands (no restrictions mind you) every year pouring in to get their entitlement of the Calexico Dream.

You will be able to pick each other’s strawberries and teach each other Mexican ways and speech. What a day.


ENUFF31 why should you care about California when you live in Texas. Will that make you a carpetbagger by sticking your nose in our affairs?

I gave a limit of "ONE" immigrate allowed to enter California and you are as predicted making an issue out of that "ONE". It appears you want more than "ONE" to enter California? How many will you allow KING ENUFF31? I gave a legitmate reason as to the "ONE" should be allowed into California. A medical doctor that is a specialist for Imperial County, California.

If we allowed you into California what do you have to offer besides being a wantabe engineer? We can teach you Spanish to get a real Yob. Signed by Ray Askins
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby Calamagrostis on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:55 am

Ras, As I have said I support green technology, but in order to figure out what technology to use you have to know how many people there are and how fast the population is growing. This is like a conversation between two engineers who are trying to design an airplane, but one of them refuses to think about how much the plane weighs. You think that some mysterious economic force will make sure that the plane can lift itself and will not be overloaded with passengers. I want to design a plane that won't crash. I have to assume that you don't know any of the facts regarding demographics, so any discussion is pointless.

By the way I saw your post recommending that we castrate ourselves. Pathetic.
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ras6057 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:06 am

Calamagrostis birth control is also a solution and that includes castration or sterilization may sound pathetic it maybe a solution, too. An U.S. citizen breaks a serious law i.e. drunken driving, child abuse, and spousal abuse, bank robbery this should happen. It breaks the chain. Population growth comes like many colors in the rainbow, different treatment for different colors.

Your treatment is to limit immigration weather by deportation or denial from entry at the border. Break a law like jay walking and you are deported if you are a foreign national. Shoot the family dog is another solution in front of children who parents are undocumented immigrates; deny children their birth right; deport them weather they are prepare or not for the new society, language and customs. For that matter a new place to live. Blindly evicting anyone and everyone that looks brown, speaks Spanish must be Mexican. Can you imagine if this was happening to blacks?

Point I trying to make we must have standards as who stays and who leaves. I see no cut and dry standards. CBP Officers homes are raided without a warrant, must less an ICE administration warrant. I.C.E. terrorizes this family as they do to other families.

I have personally experienced a raid on my business, and they left with no one. We where detained for three hours without any kind of a warrant. I was told I sold insurance to “foreign nationals and I have foreign national employees working for me.” No one had their birth certificate with them but my employees just showed their drivers’ licence. I had my passport with me and they told me to leave my business. I refused to leave. I had a business to run. Then they were trying to tell me I could be arrested. I told them to arrest me. It was just a threat. I.C.E is nothing more than bullies acting like Gestapo agents.

This why I have posted titled - I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation to stop abuses by I.C.E. The current laws do not work for immigration. Control population growth properly with design and purpose without discrimination. Signed by Ray Askins
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ENUFF31 on Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:55 pm

ras6057 wrote:Calamagrostis birth control is also a solution and that includes castration or sterilization may sound pathetic it maybe a solution, too. An U.S. citizen breaks a serious law i.e. drunken driving, child abuse, and spousal abuse, bank robbery this should happen. It breaks the chain. Population growth comes like many colors in the rainbow, different treatment for different colors.

Your treatment is to limit immigration weather by deportation or denial from entry at the border. Break a law like jay walking and you are deported if you are a foreign national. Shoot the family dog is another solution in front of children who parents are undocumented immigrates; deny children their birth right; deport them weather they are prepare or not for the new society, language and customs. For that matter a new place to live. Blindly evicting anyone and everyone that looks brown, speaks Spanish must be Mexican. Can you imagine if this was happening to blacks?

Point I trying to make we must have standards as who stays and who leaves. I see no cut and dry standards. CBP Officers homes are raided without a warrant, must less an ICE administration warrant. I.C.E. terrorizes this family as they do to other families.

I have personally experienced a raid on my business, and they left with no one. We where detained for three hours without any kind of a warrant. I was told I sold insurance to “foreign nationals and I have foreign national employees working for me.” No one had their birth certificate with them but my employees just showed their drivers’ licence. I had my passport with me and they told me to leave my business. I refused to leave. I had a business to run. Then they were trying to tell me I could be arrested. I told them to arrest me. It was just a threat. I.C.E is nothing more than bullies acting like Gestapo agents.

This why I have posted titled - I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation to stop abuses by I.C.E. The current laws do not work for immigration. Control population growth properly with design and purpose without discrimination. Signed by Ray Askins


Quote: by ras6057 on Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:06 am
“…birth control is also a solution and that includes castration or sterilization may sound pathetic it maybe a solution, too. An U.S. citizen breaks a serious law i.e. drunken driving, child abuse, and spousal abuse, bank robbery this should happen. It breaks the chain. Population growth comes like many colors in the rainbow, different treatment for different colors. “


Now that is a grand idea rasss. Castrate all of the Illegal Aliens in OUR country, yes that would include those that have obtained unconstitutional occupancy and the CHAIN. That would free up at 100 million. These illegal’s and spawn do murder by dui, child and family abuse, yes you know that much about your culture of violence.

Castrate all of those in Mexico would even be better.

You are the only one I see with hate and discrimination on this site.
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ENUFF31 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:27 pm

If a US Citizen breaks a law in America, at least it is our own country :D
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ENUFF31 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:30 pm

by Calamagrostis on Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:08 pm

Ras, I really can't continue to reply unless you at least know the basic numbers, at the very least I need to see that we are in agreement about the fact of the daily increase of California's population. Without starting at that number there can be no understanding. Do a little research and type the number out in a post, otherwise I must assume that you are not well informed enough to comment on the subject. How many people are added to this state every day? Answer the question.

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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ras6057 on Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:25 am

ENUFF31 wrote:by Calamagrostis on Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:08 pm

Ras, I really can't continue to reply unless you at least know the basic numbers, at the very least I need to see that we are in agreement about the fact of the daily increase of California's population. Without starting at that number there can be no understanding. Do a little research and type the number out in a post, otherwise I must assume that you are not well informed enough to comment on the subject. How many people are added to this state every day? Answer the question.

Still Waiting


ENUFF31 why should you care about California when you live in Texas. Will that make you a carpetbagger by sticking your nose in our affairs in California?

My answer before and still is my answer. I gave a limit of "ONE" immigrate should be allowed to enter California.

You are as predicted making an issue out of that "ONE". It appears you want more than "ONE" to enter California? How many will you allow KING ENUFF31? I gave a legitmate reason as to the "ONE" should be allowed into California.

A medical doctor that is a specialist for Imperial County, California.

Maybe we can teach you Spanish to get you a real "Yob" in the United States. Signed by Ray Askins
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ENUFF31 on Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:45 am

RE: ras6057 on Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:25 am
To “The La RAZA Hate Troll”

I am an American, California is part of my country, and I will help defend it against all enemies foreign or domestic most especially “Illegal Aliens and their unconstitutional spawn”.

ENGLISH is the language of the United States so learn while you have a chance. You are forced to use English to converse with me and it will remain so. If you refuse to assimilate, that will bring your downfall as well.
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Re: I.C.E. Raids and New Legislation

Postby ras6057 on Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:28 am

ENUFF31 wrote:RE: ras6057 on Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:25 am
To “The La RAZA Hate Troll”

I am an American, California is part of my country, and I will help defend it against all enemies foreign or domestic most especially “Illegal Aliens and their unconstitutional spawn”.

ENGLISH is the language of the United States so learn while you have a chance. You are forced to use English to converse with me and it will remain so. If you refuse to assimilate, that will bring your downfall as well.


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It appears you have a very limited vocabulary. You can't even spell undocumented immigrates, you always use the words "illegal aliens."

You refer to children as "unconstitutional spawn". They are not aquatic organism but human beings, that breathe, bleed, love and consume the same as we do. The word "spawn" is contemptuous referring to human offspring. I consider that word "spawn" as offensive towards the human race. It is like using the "N" word. Signed by Ray Askins
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