Obama's Immigration Agenda

Obama's Immigration Agenda

Postby Rick Oltman on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:31 pm

The Obama administration has posted its immigration agenda on the White House web page. There is no assurance that it will be adhered to, ignored or otherwise referred in the future, but let’s go through it now and analyze it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/immigration/

IMMIGRATION
"The time to fix our broken immigration system is now… We need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace… But for reform to work, we also must respond to what pulls people to America… Where we can reunite families, we should. Where we can bring in more foreign-born workers with the skills our economy needs, we should."
Barack Obama, Statement on U.S. Senate Floor May 23, 2007


Comment: Political rhetoric. Could have been said by almost anyone in either the Democrat or Republican Party in the past 15 years.

For too long, politicians in Washington have exploited the immigration issue to divide the nation rather than find real solutions.

Comment: Don’t know which politicians Pres. Obama is referring to. The immigration issue has been used to unite ethnic minorities, illegal aliens and their supporting infrastructure. The immigration issue has also been discussed by pro-enforcement politicians who are calling for a return to the adherence of the rule of law. Can’t think of anyone using the immigration issue to "divide the nation..." More rhetoric.

Our broken immigration system can only be fixed by putting politics aside and offering a complete solution that secures our border, enforces our laws, and reaffirms our heritage as a nation of immigrants.

Comment: “Our broken immigration system…” is a throw away phrase used by open border advocates whose solution to the “broken system” is to fix it with amnesty and open borders. “A complete solution that secures our borders” sounds an awful lot, emphasis on awful, like President Bush’s “comprehensive immigration reform” statements, which meant; amnesty, open borders, dilution of the meaning of citizenship and a threat to our culture and our soveregnty. “...reaffirms our heritage as a nation of immigrants.” Please. All nations are nations of immigrants. We let more legal immigrants into America in a year than almost all the rest of the world's countries combined. Specifically, the 1.4 million LEGAL immigrants who come to America every year "reaffirms our heritage as a nation of immigrants," and they do it LEGALLY. Please, President Obama, don’t reaffirm anything with lawless behavior.

Create Secure Borders: Protect the integrity of our borders. Support additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Comment: Good. Show us. Actions speak louder than words. We await the additional personnel and infrastructure to be deployed to the border as a deterrent. We have been waiting for a long time. The Bush administration was slow to respond to the border even after 9-11. And that delivery left a lot to be desired. If you can improve on that the country will be greatful.

Improve Our Immigration System: Fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Comment: I think most governmental bureaucracies are dysfunctional. But, frankly, if you can fix the “dysfunction” in any federal bureaucracy, you will really have accomplished something noteworthy, even historic. We just hope that “fix the dysfunction” doesn’t mean sweeping away laws, policies and safeguards allowing 30 million illegal aliens to stay in our country with the government’s official blessing, and allowing millions more to enter every year. There are no jobs that "employers cannot fill." There is no labor shortage in America. If there was a labor shortage wages would be rising--supply and demand from Econ 101. We are on the path to a population of 500,000,000 people in America in the next 40 years if this influx isn’t stopped. Families can be just as "reunited" in their nation of origin. Better that they not separate in the first place because a family member decides to enter our country illegally.

Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally: Remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Comment: Good. To remove those incentives have your congress make E-Verify mandatory, immediately. Bailout the American worker by making sure that every job in America is done by an American, or legal immigrant with a work permit. E-Verify is 99.5% accurate. Until the federal government makes E-Verify mandatory, nothing you do will be a serious attempt to secure our borders and protect our workers…nothing. And, if we ever do have a provable shortage of workers that can't be addressed by the 1.4 million legal immigrants who come each year, we have no shortage of people from around the world to choose from. If the shortage is provable, that is.

Bring People Out of the Shadows: Support a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Comment: Wrong. This is amnesty and a reward. As unemployment continues to rise you need to be cutting off illegal alien access to American jobs, benefits and welfare. The statement, “…go to the back of the line…” is intended to misdirect Americans. Most illegal aliens don’t give a darn about become citizens, they just want to live and work in our country. That reference didn’t work with President Bush, it won’t work with you. And, for the record, "the back of the line" is located in their nation of origin.

Work with Mexico: Promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.

Comment: Well intentioned, but, never gonna happen. The rulers of Mexico don’t want to promote economic development in Mexico. They want to export their lowest caste citizens to America who will then send home billions of dollars a year in remittances, ($25 billion in 2008, $26 billion in 2007). If Mexico wants to develop their country they don’t need our help. Mexico is rich with natural resources. They are top producers in at least two major commodities, oil and coffee, and they have a young, hard working, motivated population. The Mexican government doesn't want our help, especially if there are profits to be gained. They want to blame America when it suites their purpose while encouraging Mexicans to sneak into America, as their publications and policies have often proven.

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Re: Obama's Immigration Agenda - PATH to North American Union?

Postby nospeaka on Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:29 pm

Hi Rick and all...

Excellent analysis.

Wanted to pass on my initial thoughts and gut feeling after reading this...

I smell a continuation of the President Bush's mission to push for a North American Union (NAU). It started with NAFTA, then the secretive SPP meetings with Canada, Mexico and the USA. Now we have a 'perfect storm' to make it all happen. Economic crises galore...bailouts, tax breaks, stimulus packages and maybe some other fixes:
The need for 'cheaper labor' to get profits back up...so let's get some more immigrants here. Better yet, open the borders so that we can push manufacturing and shipping businesses to Mexico. In exchange, we get young warm Mexican worker bees, and maybe some old one's too so we can dilute our Social Security some more and Medicare/Medi-Cal etc. Get Mexican truckers to underbid and take over contracts so we can push out our skilled US truckers. While we are at it, let's take all the excess bank-owned homes and convert them into HUD homes and rent them 'free' to all the Illegals with tons of kids...because they deserve to live in something nice with lots of bedrooms. And with it all, we get a new currency at 1/10th or less what the dollar is worth now...call it the Amero or some new Global Currency...all because we made the dollar worthless so we don't have to pay back our loans for trillions to China and others. Welcome to the NAU!

And lastly and perhaps a little controversial, we might witness a new 'people-swapping' program. A new way to manage resources and immigration, work VISAs and more. Envision this...younger 'working age' Mexicans move north to Aztlan and the current USA, and old-timers like me will be forced to move at 65 years old to Mexican-Gov't owned condos/assisted living homes so that we'll be close to cheaper Mexican healthcare and nursing homes! Next, when 'Fidel' kicks, we can add CUBA to the mix...can't wait.

This just might be the 'Antichrist' position some are talking about...President Obama 'bleeding-heart' to 'Antichrist'...we'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Obama's Immigration Agenda

Postby Stop_CAPS on Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:25 pm

I am a U.S. born citizen and my wife is an illegal Immigrant. Immediatley after we got married we filled papers with INS (the I-130 and I-485). The I-130 was approved but the I-485 was denied. In September 2008 we recieved the deportation notice. My family has fallen victim to deportation hearings. My wife has lived here illegally for 9 years but has never broken any laws and she pays taxes. I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my wife and I have two children who are also U.S. Citizens. The Bush Administration let this happen by not renewing the 245i when it came up for renew in 2001. Keep American Families together.
My Lawyer is doing the best he can to keep my wife here by delaying the hearing. The Deportation hearing is on March 2nd 2009 in Philadelphia. Our lawyer says we don't qualify for any relief from removal. My wife has lived in the U.S. for nine years. My wife has 120 days from the hearing to depart the U.S. (June 2nd 2009).
The odds of my wife being granted approval to return to the U.S. at the interview at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico is not guarenteed. We need to file a waiver with the U.S. Embassy. The typical wait for a waiver to be approved is at least one year. Waiver's are denied more often than not. The ONLY exception to that is if the immigrant or the immigrant's spouse have a medical condition that qualifies as an extreme hardship. A minnimum penalty of at least ten years is imposed before she can apply to reenter the U.S. legally.
How is a husband suppossed to willingly agree to a ten year separation from his wife?
We are in desparate need to talk to anyone in the Obama administration who might be able to help our family stay together.
We have a seven year old son named Jhan and a three month old daughter named Shakira.
We need an immediate moratorium on all deportations that separate families.We need an immediate cancellation of all deportations that separate families until comprehensive immigration reform can be passed by Congress.
I sincerely hope my government does'nt split up my family.

Illegal immigrants should not be deported if they do not have a crimminal record and have children that are American Citizens or a spouse that is an American Citizen and are trying to follow the rules. My wife and I have filed joint tax returns for the past three years. My wife has never broken any laws.
I would pay a monatary penalty to keep my wife here legally. I've paid approximately ten thousand dollars in filling fees and lawyer fees. My wife and I just want to raise a family together. I thought that I had a birth right as an American that I would be able to marry any woman that I loved and live happily together with her.
We have two American Citizen children together. American children should not have to go through the deportation process. It isn't fair to them.
We want a cancellation of deportation order from the president for all families in our situation. If we wait until Congress acts on immigration reform it will be too late for our family. We need an Executive Order from the President.
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Re: Obama's Immigration Agenda

Postby ENUFF31 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:12 pm

Stop_CAPS wrote:I am a U.S. born citizen and my wife is an illegal Immigrant. Immediatley after we got married we filled papers with INS (the I-130 and I-485). The I-130 was approved but the I-485 was denied. In September 2008 we recieved the deportation notice. My family has fallen victim to deportation hearings. My wife has lived here illegally for 9 years but has never broken any laws and she pays taxes. I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my wife and I have two children who are also U.S. Citizens. The Bush Administration let this happen by not renewing the 245i when it came up for renew in 2001. Keep American Families together.
My Lawyer is doing the best he can to keep my wife here by delaying the hearing. The Deportation hearing is on March 2nd 2009 in Philadelphia. Our lawyer says we don't qualify for any relief from removal. My wife has lived in the U.S. for nine years. My wife has 120 days from the hearing to depart the U.S. (June 2nd 2009).
The odds of my wife being granted approval to return to the U.S. at the interview at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico is not guarenteed. We need to file a waiver with the U.S. Embassy. The typical wait for a waiver to be approved is at least one year. Waiver's are denied more often than not. The ONLY exception to that is if the immigrant or the immigrant's spouse have a medical condition that qualifies as an extreme hardship. A minnimum penalty of at least ten years is imposed before she can apply to reenter the U.S. legally.
How is a husband suppossed to willingly agree to a ten year separation from his wife?
We are in desparate need to talk to anyone in the Obama administration who might be able to help our family stay together.
We have a seven year old son named Jhan and a three month old daughter named Shakira.
We need an immediate moratorium on all deportations that separate families.We need an immediate cancellation of all deportations that separate families until comprehensive immigration reform can be passed by Congress.
I sincerely hope my government does'nt split up my family.

Illegal immigrants should not be deported if they do not have a crimminal record and have children that are American Citizens or a spouse that is an American Citizen and are trying to follow the rules. My wife and I have filed joint tax returns for the past three years. My wife has never broken any laws.
I would pay a monatary penalty to keep my wife here legally. I've paid approximately ten thousand dollars in filling fees and lawyer fees. My wife and I just want to raise a family together. I thought that I had a birth right as an American that I would be able to marry any woman that I loved and live happily together with her.
We have two American Citizen children together. American children should not have to go through the deportation process. It isn't fair to them.
We want a cancellation of deportation order from the president for all families in our situation. If we wait until Congress acts on immigration reform it will be too late for our family. We need an Executive Order from the President.


Illegal aliens are illegal aliens because they break the law.

Having got by with it for nine years is not our concern. It is an Americans responsibility, duty, and RIGHT to deport those here illegally.


Both of you have broken the laws of America and are criminals. Unconstitutional anchors are not legal per the 14th amendment.

Are you an illegal immigrant (as in expired visa) trying to establish citizenship through an unconstitutional anchor by an illegal alien? If you are legal you are a criminal by aiding and abetting the known illegal alien and should be tried accordingly.

I hope your lawyer cannot stop the legal deportation. Next time think about the truth and law before starting an ill begotten family and you will not have to face up to your reckless disregard of our laws. OUR laws and "Rule of Law" keeps and maintains our nation. No laws, no nation, no republic, and no safety.
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Re: Obama's Immigration Agenda

Postby ENUFF31 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:51 pm

The contribution of the illegal alien communities here as you say sends near $30 billion back to Mexico each year. (They must be paid too much) It helps their infrastructure there and robs ours. Such as WATER, closed schools, city services, roads, city services, bankrupts states for lack of taxes not to mention health care and education costs.

The money sent back to Mexico is the second biggest income, oil being their first highest income. Mexico and the Pope want the Illegal Alien trend to continue as it is to their benefit and our fall.

I will have to add our Chamber of Commerce has kept Mexico just where they wanted them for over 100 years. Now our Chamber of Commerce is using them against us. The United States Chamber of Commerce controls Congress and the President. Free Trade, NAFATA, CAFTA, (SAFTA was in the works), NAU, SPP, World Bank, WO, all have fun kicking us around with what ever means they can get by with and illegal aliens are only one part of their arsenal. Illegal aliens can be stopped on a dime if OUR commerce (the people that buy Congress) allows our Congress to enforce OUR constitution and laws. It is that simple.
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Re: Obama's Immigration Agenda

Postby Rob Jones on Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:03 am

ENUFF31 wrote:The contribution of the illegal alien communities here as you say sends near $30 billion back to Mexico each year. (They must be paid too much) It helps their infrastructure there and robs ours. Such as WATER, closed schools, city services, roads, city services, bankrupts states for lack of taxes not to mention health care and education costs.

The money sent back to Mexico is the second biggest income, oil being their first highest income. Mexico and the Pope want the Illegal Alien trend to continue as it is to their benefit and our fall.

I will have to add our Chamber of Commerce has kept Mexico just where they wanted them for over 100 years. Now our Chamber of Commerce is using them against us. The United States Chamber of Commerce controls Congress and the President. Free Trade, NAFATA, CAFTA, (SAFTA was in the works), NAU, SPP, World Bank, WO, all have fun kicking us around with what ever means they can get by with and illegal aliens are only one part of their arsenal. Illegal aliens can be stopped on a dime if OUR commerce (the people that buy Congress) allows our Congress to enforce OUR constitution and laws. It is that simple.


Well said, great stuff!

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