Suing Obama

[Rick Oltman]

Univision is reporting that lawyers for over 600 American born children filed a lawsuit against President Obama to suspend the deportation of their undocumented parents until there is immigration law reform.
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=4276386407fb681f77bfd30820503c45&from=rss

How nice.

Of course it isn’t the children who filed the lawsuit, it is a “pro immigrant” (translation: pro-illegal alien) organization based in Miami called American Fraternity that filed.

"Children continue to suffer by being separated from their parents because of deportations that the President may be able to suspend." Nora Sandigo of American Fraternity asserted.

Well, Nora, nobody wants to see the children suffer by being separated from their parents, so how about this? The parents can take their children home with them, as most loving parents would. That way they wouldn’t be separated.

Now, here is an idea that will really work; Stop the illegals from coming here in the first place. That way nobody gets deported, families stay united and we don’t have to contend with special interest groups constantly advocating for lawbreakers.

Like most immigration issues, it is not complicated. Immigration laws are written for a good reason and should be obeyed.

Please visit the CAPS Homepage http://www.capsweb.org

1-28-09

[IslandAnne]

Agree 1000%. The Anchor Babies shouldn't even be legal citizens since their parents are illegal. That Amendment needs to be changed; it's outdated and not serving the purpose for which it was established. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL and the fact that they managed to have an anchor baby (probably at taxpayers' expense) doesn't give them the right to be in the US. Go home and take your anchor babies with you. Especially in today's economy, tolerance is wearing very thin for ILLEGALS taking jobs that Americans WILL do!

[ENUFF31]

Agree 1000%. The Anchor Babies shouldn't even be legal citizens since their parents are illegal. That Amendment needs to be changed; it's outdated and not serving the purpose for which it was established. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL and the fact that they managed to have an anchor baby (probably at taxpayers' expense) doesn't give them the right to be in the US. Go home and take your anchor babies with you. Especially in today's economy, tolerance is wearing very thin for ILLEGALS taking jobs that Americans WILL do!

REF: Birth right citizenship part one by Dr John C Eastman professor of law and the Constitution.
There is also the part two available on YouTube but kind of boring to listen to if you understand part one. It does have information though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cP_apQ-eg

The 14th amendment is actually ok. It no longer applies to anything. It accomplished the task intended and was complete the moment the ink was dry. In 1886, it was established to give the African slaves citizenship and that is all.

The amendment states the person applying must be subject to the United States and an illegal alien is not subject as they are citizens of other countries. The video is very clear and makes the legal argument well. Laws have been written to circumnavigate the amendment. This does not mean they are constitutional laws.

In fact, they are unconstitutional in every respect. They are used to fool you and me not Congress.

The Africans were disowned by their country and did not have any place to go so we accommodated them here, as it was the fault of the 1000 year old worldwide salve industry of which we participated.

Every anchor born here is unconstitutional in every way per the 14th amendment. As you say, everyone should be packed up and sent home.

As an example, IF it were true just being born on American soil then the whole world is justified in laying eggs here. The cheap labor, border-ripping politicians allow the Latin’s south of the border and many of the Caribbean area but no one else. This makes them bigots for allowing one group and not the world.

They are using them to tear the border down, as they know we would not allow it in an outright confrontation of law.

FREE TRADE is what it is about and to push that you must destroy the American citizen by overpowering him with these ill begotten sons of Mexico and points south. It is about overpowering us with numbers. It is why Bush paid La RAZA millions to help the illegal aliens to acquire unqualified mortgage loans to help imbed them here. Since they would not allow law enforcement to enforce the laws of our nation we have had to take it or get very ugly like our American Revolution brothers had to be.

[ENUFF31]

Univision is reporting that lawyers for over 600 American born children filed a lawsuit against President Obama to suspend the deportation of their undocumented parents until there is immigration law reform.
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=4276386407fb681f77bfd30820503c45&from=rss

How nice.

Of course it isn’t the children who filed the lawsuit, it is a “pro immigrant” (translation: pro-illegal alien) organization based in Miami called American Fraternity that filed.

"Children continue to suffer by being separated from their parents because of deportations that the President may be able to suspend." Nora Sandigo of American Fraternity asserted.

Well, Nora, nobody wants to see the children suffer by being separated from their parents, so how about this? The parents can take their children home with them, as most loving parents would. That way they wouldn’t be separated.

Now, here is an idea that will really work; Stop the illegals from coming here in the first place. That way nobody gets deported, families stay united and we don’t have to contend with special interest groups constantly advocating for lawbreakers.

Like most immigration issues, it is not complicated. Immigration laws are written for a good reason and should be obeyed.

Please visit the CAPS Homepage http://www.capsweb.org

1-28-09

Good piece Rick!

[Stop_CAPS]

I am a U.S. born citizen and my wife is an illegal Immigrant. Immediatley after we got married we filled papers with INS (the I-130 and I-485). The I-130 was approved but the I-485 was denied. In September 2008 we recieved the deportation notice. My family has fallen victim to deportation hearings. My wife has lived here illegally for 9 years but has never broken any laws and she pays taxes. I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my wife and I have two children who are also U.S. Citizens. The Bush Administration let this happen by not renewing the 245i when it came up for renew in 2001. Keep American Families together.
My Lawyer is doing the best he can to keep my wife here by delaying the hearing. The Deportation hearing is on March 2nd 2009 in Philadelphia. Our lawyer says we don't qualify for any relief from removal. My wife has lived in the U.S. for nine years. My wife has 120 days from the hearing to depart the U.S. (June 2nd 2009).
The odds of my wife being granted approval to return to the U.S. at the interview at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico is not guarenteed. We need to file a waiver with the U.S. Embassy. The typical wait for a waiver to be approved is at least one year. Waiver's are denied more often than not. The ONLY exception to that is if the immigrant or the immigrant's spouse have a medical condition that qualifies as an extreme hardship. A minnimum penalty of at least ten years is imposed before she can apply to reenter the U.S. legally.
How is a husband suppossed to willingly agree to a ten year separation from his wife?
We are in desparate need to talk to anyone in the Obama administration who might be able to help our family stay together.
We have a seven year old son named Jhan and a three month old daughter named Shakira.
We need an immediate moratorium on all deportations that separate families.We need an immediate cancellation of all deportations that separate families until comprehensive immigration reform can be passed by Congress.
I sincerely hope my government does'nt split up my family.

Illegal immigrants should not be deported if they do not have a crimminal record and have children that are American Citizens or a spouse that is an American Citizen and are trying to follow the rules. My wife and I have filed joint tax returns for the past three years. My wife has never broken any laws.
I would pay a monatary penalty to keep my wife here legally. I've paid approximately ten thousand dollars in filling fees and lawyer fees. My wife and I just want to raise a family together. I thought that I had a birth right as an American that I would be able to marry any woman that I loved and live happily together with her.
We have two American Citizen children together. American children should not have to go through the deportation process. It isn't fair to them.
We want a cancellation of deportation order from the president for all families in our situation. If we wait until Congress acts on immigration reform it will be too late for our family. We need an Executive Order from the President.

[tuxkabin]

"My wife has lived here illegally for 9 years but has never broken any laws"
Your wife is an illegal immigrant and she has broken no laws? What part of "ILLEGAL" do you not get? Give me and the rest of real U.S. citizens a break and quit whining! You have both known for nine years this could happen and thank god, it has. I hope she is deported and I hope you enjoy living in Mexico, now that you can have dual citizenship. What she should have done is gone back across the border before y'all got married, applied to come to the country "LEGALLY", and y'all could have gotten married. You are guilty of aiding and abetting a criminal, don't tell me she doesn't owe any taxes. She didn't work until 3 years ago? I am a Native American Indian and this is my country. Go back to Inca land and get out of mine.

We moved to the Yucatan and tried to live legally in her country and were lied to and basically treated like (*&(*()*. Legally in Mexico we were entitled to nothing, children can not attend schools, we had to pay our medical bills in cash or go to jail until they were paid. We were charged two and three times more for everything we consumed than the Mexicans had to pay. We were denied business ownership, property ownership and any attempt s for legal citizenship in the great country of Mexico. In short, we were cheated before we were even on the plane and cheated upon getting on the plane to leave. All illegal immigranted, much less from Mexico, should be deported at once, like this country has done before, even if it costs 200 billion dollars, because while living in California, we were forced to drive 70 miles to a hopital in another town because the hospital in our town had closed because people like you, your illegal wife and children forced the hospital into bankruptcy.The federal government should nationalize the state of California before bailing the illegal alien state out, close its borders and remove all illegal immigrants. It's people like you that have destroyed my country and what my forefathers stood for, which is the true rule of law. You have abused my Constitution, you have abused my health and welfare. The rule of law is specific, but people like you belief in double standards and by your whining, it is very apparent to true Americans, that you think you are better than all of us because my family immigrated to the United States legally and we have no illegal aliens in my family tree. I hope you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of federal law for aiding and abetting this illegal alien. You, sir, are a crook. Hope you enjoy your new life in Mexico!

The men and women of our country who fell in love with foreign nationals during WWI and WWII did marry, but were forced to wait sometimes years for their spouse to come to America legally. Their love was true and their committment was true and they broke no laws.

Go read the 14th Amendment!
Go Minutemen!
Go Border Patrol!

[Rick Oltman]

Re: Stop_caps. I am going to go through and answer your post, respectfully, but forthrightly. I understand this is a hardship on you, but laws and proceedures are on the books and need to be followed.

I am a U.S. born citizen and my wife is an illegal Immigrant. Immediatley after we got married we filled papers with INS (the I-130 and I-485). The I-130 was approved but the I-485 was denied. In September 2008 we recieved the deportation notice. My family has fallen victim to deportation hearings. My wife has lived here illegally for 9 years but has never broken any laws and she pays taxes. I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my wife and I have two children who are also U.S. Citizens. The Bush Administration let this happen by not renewing the 245i when it came up for renew in 2001. Keep American Families together.

I am not an immigration lawyer, but a cursory examination of the two forms revealed the following: The USCIS website page for the form I-130 says very clearly, "Usually, if a spouse is petitioning for you and you are currently in the United States through a lawful admission or parole, you may file a Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or to Adjust Status, at the same time your spouse files the I-130 petition on your behalf." You admit that your wife was an illegal alien when you married. Clearly the I-130 did not apply. You wife was not in the US through lawful admission.

In looking at the I-485 it clearly says in the Instructions for I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status
10. Who Is Not Eligible to Adjust Status.
C. You were not admitted or paroled following inspection by an immigration officer
Since your wife was not admitted following inspection by an immigration officer she was not eligible to adjust her status with the I-485.

My Lawyer is doing the best he can to keep my wife here by delaying the hearing. The Deportation hearing is on March 2nd 2009 in Philadelphia. Our lawyer says we don't qualify for any relief from removal. My wife has lived in the U.S. for nine years. My wife has 120 days from the hearing to depart the U.S. (June 2nd 2009).
The odds of my wife being granted approval to return to the U.S. at the interview at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico is not guarenteed. We need to file a waiver with the U.S. Embassy. The typical wait for a waiver to be approved is at least one year. Waiver's are denied more often than not. The ONLY exception to that is if the immigrant or the immigrant's spouse have a medical condition that qualifies as an extreme hardship. A minnimum penalty of at least ten years is imposed before she can apply to reenter the U.S. legally.
How is a husband suppossed to willingly agree to a ten year separation from his wife?

This is not the time to be asking this question. The time for this was at the begining, before you married and before you filled out the forms.

We are in desparate need to talk to anyone in the Obama administration who might be able to help our family stay together.
We have a seven year old son named Jhan and a three month old daughter named Shakira.
We need an immediate moratorium on all deportations that separate families.We need an immediate cancellation of all deportations that separate families until comprehensive immigration reform can be passed by Congress.
I sincerely hope my government does'nt split up my family.

You are avoiding responsibility for your situation and hoping the US government will make an exception for you.

Illegal immigrants should not be deported if they do not have a crimminal record and have children that are American Citizens or a spouse that is an American Citizen and are trying to follow the rules. My wife and I have filed joint tax returns for the past three years. My wife has never broken any laws.

Illegal aliens should be deported. You say your wife never broke any laws. Well, yes she did. Illegally entering our country brakes a law. If she worked here she broke two more laws regarding identity fraud, both felonies.

I would pay a monatary penalty to keep my wife here legally. I've paid approximately ten thousand dollars in filling fees and lawyer fees.

You don't get to pick your penalty for any other area of the law, why do you suppose you can do it here?

My wife and I just want to raise a family together. I thought that I had a birth right as an American that I would be able to marry any woman that I loved and live happily together with her.

You do. Within the limits of the law, all laws, including immigration laws.

We have two American Citizen children together. American children should not have to go through the deportation process. It isn't fair to them.

That is true, it isn't fair to them. They are innocent victims of your actions. Again, this is your responsibility.

We want a cancellation of deportation order from the president for all families in our situation. If we wait until Congress acts on immigration reform it will be too late for our family. We need an Executive Order from the President.Stop_CAPS

Of course you do. What many of us don't understand is how you can expect to break the law and then expect the government to simply ignore those laws that are inconvenient to you.

2-2-09

[jim great]

there not legal citizens if born from illegal people, real americans take back your country before someone illegal does